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GROSE James Norman

Male 1877 - Abt 1953  (75 years)


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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  GROSE James Norman was born 26 May 1877, Oshawa, Durham ONT (son of GROSE James Jewel and HORN Salome Emma); died Abt 1953.

    James married DUNCAN Catherine Stoddart 24 Jan 1903, Woodstock, Oxford ONT. Catherine was born 8 Jul 1877, Clinton, Huron ONT; died 1975. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. GROSE John Norman was born 21 May 1904, Woodstock, Oxford ONT; died Oct 1978, Oakland MI.
    2. GROSE Olive Janice was born Abt Sep 1906, ONT; died 5 Jul 1991, Toronto ONT.
    3. GROSE Catherine Emma Stoddart was born 30 Jul 1909, Woodstock, Oxford ONT; died Abt 1910, ONT.
    4. GROSE Gwen was born Jul 1910, ONT; died Yes, date unknown.
    5. GROSE Marion was born Abt 1913, ONT; died Yes, date unknown.
    6. GROSE Male Child was born 19 May 1921, Toronto ONT; died 19 May 1921, Toronto, York ONT.

Generation: 2

  1. 2.  GROSE James Jewel was born Abt 1843, Luxulyan CON; died 20 Nov 1912, Oshawa, Durham ONT.

    Other Events:

    • _UID: A37D8263CCD94DDDB29E897C6BC4B5ECF922

    James married HORN Salome Emma Oshawa, Durham ONT. Salome (daughter of HORNE Richard and WALTER Salome) was born 15 Jun 1852, Darlington, Durham ONT; died 20 Nov 1935, Oshawa, Durham ONT. [Group Sheet]


  2. 3.  HORN Salome Emma was born 15 Jun 1852, Darlington, Durham ONT (daughter of HORNE Richard and WALTER Salome); died 20 Nov 1935, Oshawa, Durham ONT.

    Other Events:

    • Name: Salome Emma GROVES
    • _UID: 26E8A8D96EBA40CE89453D3F521C8DD2DC6D

    Children:
    1. GROSE Salome Harriet Emily May was born 20 Dec 1870, Oshawa, Durham ONT; died 15 May 1927, Whitby, Durham ONT.
    2. GROSE William Richard was born Abt 1876, Oshawa, Durham ONT; died Yes, date unknown.
    3. 1. GROSE James Norman was born 26 May 1877, Oshawa, Durham ONT; died Abt 1953.
    4. GROSE Florence Evelyn was born 17 Jul 1883, Oshawa, Durham ONT; died Yes, date unknown.
    5. GROSE Olive Lorene was born 25 Nov 1889, Oshawa, Durham ONT; died 1 Feb 1983, SAS; was buried Feb 1983, Yorkton Memorial Gardens, Yorkton SAS.


Generation: 3

  1. 6.  HORNE Richard was born Abt 1815, Sutcombe DEV; died 16 Feb 1882, Durham ONT.

    Other Events:

    • _UID: 006AE54A0CAA4B638248E2AB049DF04D3284
    • Baptism: 27 Aug 1815, Sutcombe DEV

    Richard married WALTER Salome 6 Jan 1837, Sutcombe DEV. Salome (daughter of WALTER Charles and CHING Mary) was born Abt 1814, Bradworthy DEV; died 26 May 1880, East Whitby, Durham ONT. [Group Sheet]


  2. 7.  WALTER Salome was born Abt 1814, Bradworthy DEV (daughter of WALTER Charles and CHING Mary); died 26 May 1880, East Whitby, Durham ONT.

    Other Events:

    • Name: Salome HORN
    • _UID: 1294C4D84A294794879750D3891016109099
    • Baptism: 15 Oct 1814, Bradworthy DEV

    Children:
    1. HORNE Richard Walter was born Abt 1837, Sutcombe DEV; died 6 Nov 1897, Durham ONT; was buried Nov 1897, Durham Cemetery, Durham, Grey ONT.
    2. HORN Mary Jane was born 24 Jun 1842, Darlington, Durham ONT; died 16 Jan 1906, Erinview, Woodlands MAN; was buried Jan 1906, All Saints' Anglican Cemetery, Erinview MAN.
    3. HORN Elizabeth Ann was born 18 Mar 1844, Darlington, Durham ONT; died 18 Jan 1906, MAN.
    4. HORN Mathew was born Abt 1847, CAN.
    5. HORNE Nathan was born 23 Mar 1847, Darlington, Durham ONT; died 11 Mar 1930, Bowmanville, Durham ONT; was buried Mar 1930, Bowmanville Cemetery, Bowmanville, Durham ONT.
    6. 3. HORN Salome Emma was born 15 Jun 1852, Darlington, Durham ONT; died 20 Nov 1935, Oshawa, Durham ONT.
    7. HORN Bertha was born Abt 1855, Darlington, Durham ONT; died Yes, date unknown.
    8. HORNE William Frederick was born 24 Aug 1858, Darlington, Durham ONT; died 5 Aug 1936, Ontario ONT.


Generation: 4

  1. 14.  WALTER CharlesWALTER Charles was born 30 Sep 1787, 'Blatchborough', Bradworthy DEV (son of WALTER William and BRIMACOMBE Ann); died 8 Oct 1859, Manilla, Mariposa Twp., Victoria ONT; was buried Oct 1859, Manilla Union Cemetery, Manilla, Mariposa Twp., Victoria ONT.

    Other Events:

    • Occupation: Yeoman Farmer at 'Weston'
    • _UID: CF90FABE5705406B865173EDD1BE053A23BC
    • Baptism: 30 Dec 1787, Bradworthy DEV
    • Residence: 1841, Bradworthy DEV
    • Census: 6 Jun 1841, 'Weston', Bradworthy DEV; : 53y
    • Emigration: 1842, ENG
    • Residence: 1852, Darlington, Durham ONT

    Notes:

    Moved temporarily from Canada to Illinois (IL) in 1849 along with his second wife Mary CANN and son Nathan C. WALTER(s). Stayed in Illinois until 1855 as he and Mary were recorded in the 1850 US Census living in Lake County IL.

    Birth:
    The date of Charles WALTER's birth remains something of a mystery. Almost all available sources say that he was born on 30 Sep 1787. I do not know the source of this date but would like to know where it is sourced. He was baptised on 30 Dec 1787 and that date seems reasonable if he was born on 30 Sep of the same year. His recently revealed headstone image reveals that he died on 8 Oct 1859 aged 73 years and 3 months. If his headstone age is correct then he was born between 9 Jun 1786 and 8 Jul 1786 which would mean he was born in late June 1786.

    Added to this mystery is the fact that his parents William WALTER (1757-1827) and Ann BRIMACOMBE (c. 1766-1837) were married at Bradworthy on 9 Apr 1787, long after June 1786 and not too far short of 30 Sep 1787. It should also be said that in England during some periods it was quite common for some couples to marry after or not long before the birth of their first child.

    Forced to make a guess as to the real answer, I would say that following his death, the family put an incorrect age on his headstone so causing 20th. and 21st. century family historians much head scratching! Unfortunately, we will probably never know the truth!



    Emigration:
    Aboard 'The Edward' in the Spring of 1842.
    Into Place: Bowmanville, Durham ONT

    Buried:
    Headstone shows age: 73 years & 3 mo's.

    Charles married CHING Mary 29 Jul 1811, Bradworthy DEV. Mary was born Abt 1793, Woolfardisworthy (West) DEV; died 1 Aug 1839, 'Weston', Bradworthy DEV; was buried 3 Aug 1839, Bradworthy Churchyard, Bradworthy DEV. [Group Sheet]


  2. 15.  CHING Mary was born Abt 1793, Woolfardisworthy (West) DEV; died 1 Aug 1839, 'Weston', Bradworthy DEV; was buried 3 Aug 1839, Bradworthy Churchyard, Bradworthy DEV.

    Other Events:

    • Name: Mary WALTER
    • _UID: 82605A3A53E745409AB522D96C0403110300
    • Baptism: 23 May 1794, Woolfardisworthy (West) DEV

    Notes:

    Died:
    Headstone says age was 46 years.

    Children:
    1. WALTERS Ann was born Abt 1812, 'Weston', Bradworthy DEV; died 24 Feb 1885, Darlington, Durham ONT; was buried Feb 1885, Ebenezer Cemetery, Courtice, Durham ONT.
    2. WALTER William was born Abt 1813, 'Weston', Bradworthy DEV; died 27 Aug 1828, Bradworthy DEV; was buried Aug 1828, Bradworthy Churchyard, Bradworthy DEV.
    3. 7. WALTER Salome was born Abt 1814, Bradworthy DEV; died 26 May 1880, East Whitby, Durham ONT.
    4. WALTERS Grace was born 7 Oct 1815, 'Weston', Bradworthy DEV; died 12 Apr 1906, Oakwood, Victoria ONT; was buried Apr 1906, Mariposa, Victoria ONT.
    5. WALTER Mary was born Abt 1819, 'Weston', Bradworthy DEV; died 24 Jan 1833, 'Weston', Bradworthy DEV; was buried Jan 1833, Interred within St. John the Baptist Parish Church, Bradworthy DEV.
    6. WALTER Harriet was born Abt 1820, Bradworthy DEV; died 3 Jul 1830, Bradworthy DEV; was buried 6 Jul 1830, Bradworthy Churchyard, Bradworthy DEV.
    7. WALTER Honor, (twin) was born Abt 1821, Bradworthy DEV; died 1821, Bradworthy DEV.
    8. WALTERS Charity, (twin) was born Abt 1822, 'Weston', Bradworthy DEV; died 9 Jul 1891, East Whitby, Durham ONT; was buried Jul 1891, Ebenezer Cemetery, Courtice, Durham ONT.
    9. WALTER Susanna was born Abt 1824, Bradworthy DEV; died 28 Sep 1831, Bradworthy DEV; was buried Sep 1831, Interred within St. John the Baptist Parish Church, Bradworthy DEV.
    10. WALTER Honor was born Abt 1825, Bradworthy DEV; died Yes, date unknown.
    11. WALTER Charles was born Abt 1825, 'Weston', Bradworthy DEV; died 11 Feb 1874, Tyrone, Durham ONT; was buried Feb 1874, Bethesda Cemetery, Tyrone, Durham ONT.
    12. WALTERS Nathan Charles was born Abt 1827, Bradworthy DEV; died 31 Jan 1903, Waucoma, Fayette IA; was buried Feb 1903, Waucoma Cemetery, Waucoma, Fayette IA.
    13. WALTER Emma was born 7 Jul 1828, 'Weston', Bradworthy DEV; died 1891, Durham ONT; was buried 1891, Oshawa, Durham ONT.
    14. WALTER Roger was born Abt 1830, 'Weston', Bradworthy DEV; died Feb 1830, 'Weston', Bradworthy DEV; was buried 4 Feb 1830, Bradworthy DEV.
    15. WALTER William was born 18 Jun 1831, 'Weston', Bradworthy DEV; died 18 Oct 1914, Darlington, Durham ONT; was buried Oct 1914, Orono Cemetery, Orono, Durham ONT.
    16. WALTER Joseph, (twin) was born 6 Jan 1833, 'Weston', Bradworthy DEV; died 24 Jan 1833, Bradworthy DEV; was buried 28 Jan 1833, Bradworthy Churchyard, Bradworthy DEV.
    17. WALTER Mary, (twin) was born 6 Jan 1833, 'Weston', Bradworthy DEV; died 28 Jan 1833, Bradworthy DEV; was buried Jan 1833, Interred within St. John the Baptist Parish Church, Bradworthy DEV.
    18. WALTERS Harriet was born 22 Mar 1834, 'Weston', Bradworthy DEV; died 1895, Little Britain, Mariposa Twp., Victoria ONT; was buried 1895, Little Britain Bible Christian Cemetery, Little Britain, Mariposa Twp., Victoria ONT.
    19. WALTER Richard was born 6 May 1836, 'Weston', Bradworthy DEV; died 23 Mar 1890, Orono, Durham ONT.
    20. WALTERS Mary was born Abt 1837, 'Weston', Bradworthy DEV; died , ONT.


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